Greystones Harbour: More Appartments for new Developer

Things are moving down at Greystones Harbour. Unfortunately, not for the better. NAMA, the SISK Group and Park Developments have agreed that the SISK Group will acquire Park’s interest in the project and the taking on full responsibility. At the same time, Wicklow County Council and an Bord Pleanala have expanded the Harbour scheme to 373 apartments and 1,002 parking spaces, while decreasing public parkland from 18 to 15 acres.

By prioritising apartments over public parks, Wicklow County Council and an Bord Pleanala have shown how little concern they have for the community. This decision has been taken to make the development more commercially viable for the new developer. Throughout this process, the County Council has placed the balance sheet of the developer ahead of the wishes of the people of Greystones. The recommendations of Kevin Moore, Senior Planning Inspector were also overlooked. He said this development constituted: ‘overdevelopment of the site… and would, thereby, be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the area’.

SISK may have taken over the development from Sispar, but it’s still unclear when work will begin again on the harbour. What is certain is that what will now be built will be of less benefit to the people of Greystones.

  • Eoin

    Have we not learned from the mistakes of letting the developers away with this kind of behaviour in the past?

  • Kevin Cunningham

    disgraceful. that said, who are the local councillors involved here?

  • Annemullen

    so nothing has changed in local government but of course we need “more apartments”

  • Fiona

    Is there anyway we can have a say in this?  Or stop it or even postpone it?

    • Kevin

      Agree, how best can we protest this as load and visibly as possible?

  • Michellerogers123

    It was already an entirely inappropriate development – funding-led development as ever in this country – now it will be even worse – we desperately need to have proper town planning.  But for this development, people should shout and scream to get this new decision reversed.

  • Mimi

    That development seems way too large for the centre of Greystones.  Just the extra traffic alone will be difficult to subsume.  And decreasing parkland is sinful. I hear about these sorts of decisions and what comes to mind are brown envelopes, back-room meetings, quick profit over long-term sustainability of an area.  Is there anything we can do to get this reversed? 

  • ROG

    IS THE 5 MILLION BOND STILL IN PLACE AND HAVE NEW CONTRACTS BEEN DRAWN UP? WILL THE CLUBHOUSES BE BUILT AS PART OF PHASE ONE AS PER THE ORIGINAL PLANNING PERMISSION AND THE LATEST CONDITION FROM AN BORD PLEANALA? WHAT PRICE HAVE SISKS AGREED WITH NAMA FOR THE SITE IF ANY? HAS NAMA WRITTEN OFF THE DEBT OR AGREED NEW TERMS? THESE FACTS CANNOT BE HIDDEN BEHIND VEILS OF COMMERCIAL SENSITIVITY IN WHAT IS A CONTROVERSIAL PPP PROJECT GONE PEAR SHAPED.

  • Protest

    The more things change the more they stay the same!!!  Would have thought they had all learned their lessons the hard way during the past 4 years…but it seems not.  “The recommendations of Kevin Moore, Senior Planning Inspector were also overlooked. He said this development constituted: ‘overdevelopment of the site… and would, thereby, be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the area’.”  Overdevelopment AGAIN!  Laws only apply to us…the pygmies who pay the piper!

  • Ed3254

    Still no Developer or Banker has been held to account for the financial crisis.

    The people still get shafted to the benifit of the above…

  • Ed3254

    The whole project is Mad, and we can whine all Ya like about it, until the new change comes about for the global “New World Order” Were not to far off that in the near future, when the Troika/IMF takes over the world of governments, and that’s who will be answering to. Not the F.F./F.G. Labour or S.F. they’ll be past species of what was? 

  • Alices

    This kind of apartment development in a prime spot happened in Kinsale. Pierce were the builders and caused nothing but upset with locals who lived close by. No thought was given to size and number of apartments only the big Euro signs in the eyes of the builders. Today, nearly 10 years after they were built only about 33% are occupied and the place looks a bit run down. Residents have problems with the Management company and Pierce Construction are long gone…a beautiful site ruined by greed…the story of Ireland. It makes me want to weep.

  • Guest

    The practice of using public property for private gain is perfectly institutionalized in this county and will stop only if and when we do something about it.  So, Stephen, what are you going to *do* and how can we help you?

  • Billy

    The development should go ahead it has to be scaled up to be economically viable for Sisk. Fair play to Sisk for carrying the risk, I presume this is not being state funded and it will only help boost local tourism and the economy as a whole in the area.The main issue Sisk will have is attracting buyers for the scheme as Utilities in Greystones such as Broadband and and fibre optic cabling are weak, I would hope that the council have asked for a large amount of development fees to help assist with running Ducts from Bray to accomadate both UPC and Eircom with provisions for the supply of these utilities.Dont forget Satellite dishes are an eye sore when they rust and sea air will rust these dishes within weeks.I would also like to add that Sisk are not in NAMA its Park developments that are in Nama.Bring it on clean it up get the development started before that sites turns into a complete mess.Also keep in mind that if ducts from Bray are too expensive because both the  expense of digging through rock and civil works in general then knock on Iarnrod Eireanns door as ducts can be ran along the wall of the train tracks to save costs.If the population of Greystones increases so will the services,ask anyone over the age of fifty who has lived in Greystones all there life they will tell you that the Steam train in the 1940’s provided a better service than the dart and diesel put together.

  • John O

    Stephen, How much have sisk spent on the harbour so far? We need to encourage sisk to proceed and finish the houses and apartments and keep the objectors at bay or we will be left with a site that WCC will need to sell and who knows how long that will take.
    Are there still 375 houses /apartments going to be on the site?